diff --git a/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/Converters.cs b/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/Converters.cs
index e56d3308..853fd29f 100644
--- a/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/Converters.cs
+++ b/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/Converters.cs
@@ -34,5 +34,47 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores.Converters
                null;
     }
 
+    public class CustomObjectConverter<T> : ValueConverter<T> where T : class
+    {
+        private interface IImpl
+        {
+            T FromValue(Value value, object parent);
+            Value ToValue(T obj, object parent);
+        }
+        private class Impl<U> : IImpl where U : class, GeneratedStore.IGeneratedStore, T
+        {
+            private static readonly GeneratedStore.GeneratedStoreCreator creator = GeneratedStore.GetCreator(typeof(T));
+
+            public T FromValue(Value value, object parent)
+            { // lots of casting here, but it works i promise
+                var obj = creator(parent as GeneratedStore.IGeneratedStore) as U;
+                obj.Deserialize(value);
+                return obj;
+            }
+
+            public Value ToValue(T obj, object parent)
+            {
+                if (obj is GeneratedStore.IGeneratedStore store)
+                    return store.Serialize();
+                else
+                    return null; // TODO: make this behave sanely instead of just giving null
+            }
+        }
+
+        private static readonly IImpl impl = (IImpl)Activator.CreateInstance(
+            typeof(Impl<>).MakeGenericType(GeneratedStore.GetGeneratedType(typeof(T))));
+
+        public static T Deserialize(Value value, object parent)
+            => impl.FromValue(value, parent);
+
+        public static Value Serialize(T obj, object parent)
+            => impl.ToValue(obj, parent);
+
+        public override T FromValue(Value value, object parent)
+            => impl.FromValue(value, parent);
+
+        public override Value ToValue(T obj, object parent)
+            => impl.ToValue(obj, parent);
+    }
 
 }
diff --git a/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/GeneratedStore.cs b/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/GeneratedStore.cs
index bcc6426c..29c3598c 100644
--- a/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/GeneratedStore.cs
+++ b/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/GeneratedStore.cs
@@ -177,8 +177,7 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores
             }
         }
 
-        private static Dictionary<Type, Func<IGeneratedStore, IConfigStore>> generatedCreators = new Dictionary<Type, Func<IGeneratedStore, IConfigStore>>();
-        private static Dictionary<Type, Dictionary<string, Type>> memberMaps = new Dictionary<Type, Dictionary<string, Type>>();
+        private static readonly Dictionary<Type, (GeneratedStoreCreator ctor, Type type)> generatedCreators = new Dictionary<Type, (GeneratedStoreCreator ctor, Type type)>();
 
         public static T Create<T>() where T : class => (T)Create(typeof(T));
 
@@ -190,14 +189,29 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores
         internal static T Create<T>(IGeneratedStore parent) where T : class => (T)Create(typeof(T), parent);
 
         private static IConfigStore Create(Type type, IGeneratedStore parent)
+            => GetCreator(type)(parent);
+
+        internal static GeneratedStoreCreator GetCreator(Type t)
+        {
+            if (generatedCreators.TryGetValue(t, out var gen))
+                return gen.ctor;
+            else
+            {
+                gen = MakeCreator(t);
+                generatedCreators.Add(t, gen);
+                return gen.ctor;
+            }
+        }
+
+        internal static Type GetGeneratedType(Type t)
         {
-            if (generatedCreators.TryGetValue(type, out var creator))
-                return creator(parent);
+            if (generatedCreators.TryGetValue(t, out var gen))
+                return gen.type;
             else
             {
-                creator = MakeCreator(type);
-                generatedCreators.Add(type, creator);
-                return creator(parent);
+                gen = MakeCreator(t);
+                generatedCreators.Add(t, gen);
+                return gen.type;
             }
         }
 
@@ -259,8 +273,12 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores
             public ConstructorInfo Nullable_Construct => Type.GetConstructor(new[] { NullableWrappedType });
         }
 
-        private static Func<IGeneratedStore, IConfigStore> MakeCreator(Type type)
+        internal delegate IConfigStore GeneratedStoreCreator(IGeneratedStore parent);
+
+        private static (GeneratedStoreCreator ctor, Type type) MakeCreator(Type type)
         {
+            if (!type.IsClass) throw new ArgumentException("Config type is not a class");
+
             var baseCtor = type.GetConstructor(Type.EmptyTypes); // get a default constructor
             if (baseCtor == null)
                 throw new ArgumentException("Config type does not have a public parameterless constructor");
@@ -758,18 +776,11 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores
             var genType = typeBuilder.CreateType();
 
             var parentParam = Expression.Parameter(typeof(IGeneratedStore), "parent");
-            var creatorDel = Expression.Lambda<Func<IGeneratedStore, IConfigStore>>(
+            var creatorDel = Expression.Lambda<GeneratedStoreCreator>(
                 Expression.New(ctor, parentParam), parentParam
             ).Compile();
 
-            { // register a member map
-                var dict = new Dictionary<string, Type>();
-                foreach (var member in structure)
-                    dict.Add(member.Name, member.Type);
-                memberMaps.Add(type, dict);
-            }
-
-            return creatorDel;
+            return (creatorDel, genType);
         }
 
         private delegate LocalBuilder GetLocal(Type type, int idx = 0);
diff --git a/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/ValueConverter.cs b/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/ValueConverter.cs
index aec5dde6..c0f8e0db 100644
--- a/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/ValueConverter.cs
+++ b/IPA.Loader/Config/Stores/ValueConverter.cs
@@ -1,9 +1,5 @@
 using IPA.Config.Data;
 using System;
-using System.Collections.Generic;
-using System.Linq;
-using System.Text;
-using System.Threading.Tasks;
 
 namespace IPA.Config.Stores
 {
@@ -12,10 +8,10 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores
     /// <see cref="GeneratedExtension.Generated{T}(Config, bool)"/>.
     /// </summary>
     /// <remarks>
-    /// The object returned from <see cref="FromValue(Value)"/>, if fed into <see cref="ToValue(object)"/>,
-    /// should return equivalent <see cref="Value"/> structures. Similarly, if the result of <see cref="ToValue(object)"/>
-    /// is fed into <see cref="FromValue(Value)"/>, the resulting object should be equivalent to the one passed to 
-    /// <see cref="ToValue(object)"/>.
+    /// The object returned from <see cref="FromValue(Value, object)"/>, if fed into <see cref="ToValue(object, object)"/>,
+    /// should return equivalent <see cref="Value"/> structures. Similarly, if the result of <see cref="ToValue(object, object)"/>
+    /// is fed into <see cref="FromValue(Value, object)"/>, the resulting object should be equivalent to the one passed to 
+    /// <see cref="ToValue(object, object)"/>.
     /// </remarks>
     public interface IValueConverter
     {
@@ -23,14 +19,16 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores
         /// Converts the given object to a <see cref="Value"/>.
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="obj">the object to convert</param>
+        /// <param name="parent">the owning object of <paramref name="obj"/></param>
         /// <returns>a representation of <paramref name="obj"/> as a <see cref="Value"/> structure</returns>
-        Value ToValue(object obj);
+        Value ToValue(object obj, object parent);
         /// <summary>
         /// Converts the given <see cref="Value"/> to the object type handled by this converter.
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="value">the <see cref="Value"/> to deserialize</param>
+        /// <param name="parent">the object that will own the result</param>
         /// <returns>the deserialized object</returns>
-        object FromValue(Value value);
+        object FromValue(Value value, object parent);
         /// <summary>
         /// Gets the type that this <see cref="IValueConverter"/> handles.
         /// </summary>
@@ -48,19 +46,21 @@ namespace IPA.Config.Stores
         /// Converts the given object to a <see cref="Value"/>.
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="obj">the object to convert</param>
+        /// <param name="parent">the owning object of <paramref name="obj"/></param>
         /// <returns>a representation of <paramref name="obj"/> as a <see cref="Value"/> structure</returns>
-        /// <seealso cref="IValueConverter.ToValue(object)"/>
-        public abstract Value ToValue(T obj);
+        /// <seealso cref="IValueConverter.ToValue"/>
+        public abstract Value ToValue(T obj, object parent);
         /// <summary>
         /// Converts the given <see cref="Value"/> to the object type handled by this converter.
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="value">the <see cref="Value"/> to deserialize</param>
+        /// <param name="parent">the object that will own the result</param>
         /// <returns>the deserialized object</returns>
-        /// <seealso cref="IValueConverter.FromValue(Value)"/>
-        public abstract T FromValue(Value value);
+        /// <seealso cref="IValueConverter.FromValue"/>
+        public abstract T FromValue(Value value, object parent);
 
-        Value IValueConverter.ToValue(object obj) => ToValue((T)obj);
-        object IValueConverter.FromValue(Value value) => FromValue(value);
+        Value IValueConverter.ToValue(object obj, object parent) => ToValue((T)obj, parent);
+        object IValueConverter.FromValue(Value value, object parent) => FromValue(value, parent);
         Type IValueConverter.Type => typeof(T);
     }
 }